Facebook Debate with the Libs Take 2

September 9th, 2009

What follows is another debate that took place when I posted a status update in an effort to start a dialog.  I wasn’t expecting this to go as far as it did.  But what follows is some seriously funny stuff.

Patriot In Exile is proud to be on the liberal watchlists. They can’t silence our voice so they try to scare us with name calling. All that does is fuel the fire.

TR

YOU NAZI! YOU MOBSTER! Hey wait a minute, I guess I am one TOO!!!!! LOL!

Patriot In Exile

I wear that moniker like a badge of honor.

Lib Father-In-Law

How do you know?

TR

AMEN!!!

Patriot In Exile

I am sure my fb rants have been sent to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Lib Father-In-Law

Isn’t that the Secret Service list?

Patriot In Exile

Nope. Linda Douglas has asked for people to turn in any conversations, website or emails that seem “fishy” regarding “misinformation” on HR3200. Sounds like Castro’s goons in the 60’s.

Lib Father-In-Law

What’s HR3200?

Patriot In Exile

That’s funny.

Lib Father-In-Law

I really didn’t know. Mom found it and it is 1017 pages. I assume you have read the entire bill and not somebody’s blog summary?

Patriot In Exile

I am on page 450. It is a very difficult read. There is a lot of ambiguity and the language can be interpreted many different ways.

Also trying to read the UN Charter on Children’s Rights. That one just makes me sick to my stomach.

Pagan Gin

what’s wrong with the Un’s Children’s rights thing…never heard of it.

Patriot In Exile

Just that it allows for other nations to dictate how we raise our children, starts to take away the parent’s right to home school their child(ren), and gives more power to school officials to decide if the parents are “abusing” their children by taking corrective measures for wrong doings. It is a scary thing and Obama is all for it.

Libby CB

Let me know when you find the right wing’s scare tactic, “death panels,” in that document. I’ve yet to find it.

Libby CB

I just read the UN’s Convention on the Rights of the Child, and I don’t see where you get your points of other nations telling us how to raise our children, whether or not we can home school, and gives public schools the right to determine if children are abused by their parents?!!? Can you cite the exact wording of the document because, like I said, I’m not comprehending it as you are.

Patriot In Exile

Nothing yet. Just the end of life stuff. But, if we follow Oregon’s model, then we may have something to worry about.

Also, let me know when the actual reform talk begins. All I see so far in this bill is entitlement. Hearing Obama speak today makes me think that our system is so bad that we are bleeding people to cure diseases. It seems that there are some scare tactics being used on the “left” as well.

So, you have read the entire thing? All sections and pages? When I get back to the room I will be glad to point it out.

Southern CB

Well I don’t know what HR3200 is but I know I’m in there but don’t know which page. I do know that Jesus saved my soul, I will raise my family according to the Bible & I know 7.62×39 & 45 APC very well so screw them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patriot In Exile

Requested information on UN Charter for Human Rights.
GENERAL COMMENT No. 5 (2003)
General measures of implementation of the Convention on
the Rights of the Child (arts. 4, 42 and 44, para. 6).
In the Introduction is states:
“When a State ratifies the Convention on the Rights of the Child, it takes on obligations under international law to implement it.”
http://bit.ly/16YOg7
The only law we, in the USA, need to follow is that ordained in the US Constitution (much to the dismay of Justice Ginsberg) and by God Himself.

Innocent Gibby

hmmm!

Patriot In Exile

UN Charter regarding Corporal Punishment.
GENERAL COMMENT No. 8 (2006)
The right of the child to protection from corporal punishment and other cruel or degrading forms of punishment (arts. 19; 28, para. 2; and 37, inter alia)
Page 11, Number 43: “It is essential that the prohibition of all corporal punishment and other cruel or degrading punishment, and the sanctions that may be imposed if it is inflicted, should be well disseminated to children and to all those working with or for children in all settings. Monitoring disciplinary systems and the treatment of children must be part of the sustained supervision of all institutions and
placements which is required by the Convention.”
http://bit.ly/3NawGc

Patriot In Exile

On June 11, 2009 a report on home education in England by Graham Badman, a former Managing Director of Children, Families and Education in the County of Kent, was accepted in full by the British Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families. The report makes the case that homeschooling should be extensively regulated in England. He cited Article 29 of the UNCRC he proposed the following:

That designated local authority officers should:
- have the right of access to the home
- have the right to speak with each child alone.
And:

That a requirement is placed upon local authorities to secure the monitoring of the effectiveness of elective home education.

Mr. Badman’s rationale for placing the state in charge of determining the effectiveness of a home education (i.e. deciding which curriculum is used) is based on Article 29 of the UNCRC.

The Badman report is a stark reminder of how government officials in an English-speaking democracy have interpreted the UNCRC.

Patriot In Exile

I am sure you will argue these points I have made. It is no surprise that there is a separation between home schooling and public school sentiment. The overall right of raising the child lies with the parent. We cannot deny that there is some indoctrination that takes place in classrooms. The example of the class in NC where the teacher chided the students who stated they would vote for McCain is a prime example. I can provide that video if you would like.
The rights of the parent are slowly eroding. The UNCRC will do to parents rights what the Typhoon did to Taiwan this week.

Southern CB

I can’t remember where it is but there is a verse in the Bible that says the father who loves his child will chasten after him but the father who does not hateth his son. Or something like that. Of course we’ve all heard the verse that says “Spare not the rod to spoil the child”

Southern CB

Boy PiE, your wall fills up fast! LOL! Your as good at stirring th pot as I am or better LOL!!

Patriot In Exile

For those who want to read Mr. Badman’s (appropriate name) report, go here. http://bit.ly/EU9zS

Lefty Jan

29. Some raise faith-based justifications for corporal punishment, suggesting that certain
interpretations of religious texts not only justify its use, but provide a duty to use it. Freedom of religious belief is upheld for everyone in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (art. 18), but practice of a religion or belief must be consistent with respect for others’ human dignity and physical integrity. Freedom to practise one’s religion or belief may be legitimately limited in order to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of others. In certain States, the Committee has found that children, in some cases from a very young age, in other cases from the time that they are judged to have reached puberty, may be sentenced to punishments of extreme violence, including stoning and amputation, prescribed under certain interpretations of religious law. Such punishments plainly violate the Convention and other international human rights standards.

Lefty Jan

But again some things are not so bad to have in there. Looking out or children is not a bad thing and like with all bills or anything with government you sometimes end up taking the good with the bad. I am not saying that is a good thing just a reality.

Patriot In Exile

Lefty Jan, the problem here is that a lot is left up to interpretation. Also, there have been numerous cases where children were taken away from their parents because someone at school heard the child was spanked. I agree children should not be in abusive situations. However, the parent has the right to discipline their child for a wrong doing. Google Shelia Marie Sumey and Washington State. She was 13 when her parents grounded her for doing drugs and being sexually active. A school counselor told her she could be liberated and got the courts involved. CPS removed her from the home and her parents, even though the judge believed they were right, lost her to the State.

I do not accept good with the bad when bad means some idiot State or Federal bureaucrat can come in to my home at a whim and take my child because I disagree with government control of our lives. I believe taking the bad with the good is what has gotten us where we are today. Too many people remained silent for too long.

Southern CB

Yep I had DSS investigate me cause someone @ church of all places found out I spanked my kids & called & said I beat my kids & wife & they came out & had to see my children & wife’s naked bodies to see if I was beating them!!! I told the social worker that I now knew exactly what a woman feels like when she says she feels violated!! The law in NC protects the one who made the claim & will not ID them!!! But when DSS finished & sent me a letter saying they found no cause they said they also said the person who accused me would get the same letter & have 30 days to file a criminal charge against me. The social worker called me & said if they did she would testify to the fact that my home was the environment every child should grow up in!!!! Praise GOD for watching over us!!! It took my wife over a year before she would talk to anyone or let even friends & family in our home again!!

Texas Joe

Southern CB, People that make those accusations are no better than the dog poo that is on my boots. To falsely make accusations like that and destroy another persons sanity, is in itself abuse, but the good ol’ big bother doesn’t want that.

Pagan Gin

Well the sad truth about ‘home schooling’ is we got leftwing-nuts and right-wingnuts home schooling their kids and brainwashing them with all kinds of nonesence. Extremists on one side teaching kids that the universe is only 5000 years old, and Earth is the only planet with life in it….and ones on the other extreme teaching kids that smoking pot leads to enlightenment. Some teaching woman shouldn’t wear pants or make-up…some teaching everyone should go nude….both extremes are wackos…and both extremes have no business teaching such crap to kids who are sheltered form ‘the real world.’ Being a Pagan myself…many of ‘us’ homeschool and it’s bad for kids to be schooled only with ‘others like them’ and be always under the thumb of over protective over controlling parents. Kids need to learn to think for themselves, learn all things not just what mommy or their preacher says they can learn. Then make up their OWN minds if they believe what their parents believe.

Southern CB

Ginger all though I may not agree with your views me being a Christian I do see you have a valid point. But I also do not believe children are mature enough or wise enough to decide what’s right & wrong & choose how to believe until they are older then of course they have the right to make those choices. My self as a Christian try to raise mine according to the teachings of the Bible which plainly says I should. But it also plainly says that child has to make the choice on their own when they reach the “the age of accountability”. That’s just simply means we are to raise them as Christian but when they are old enough to understand it’s up to them cause we neither have the right or ability to decide such things for anyone including our children. The Bible also teaches to teach them about the world & what’s out there & they are other beliefs. We do our best to try to educate our kids on what is popular belief & what we believe & what others believe & they will have to choose as they grow.

Lefty Jan

PiE I understand your point but I think that this is still a good concept and idea to have protection for children. Especially after reading this article
.http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/08/11/congo.rape/index.html
It is a horrible world we live in that this goes on. I think that this is the focus that should be on the children. I think homeschooling should not even really be an issue as there are greater risks to children these days. It is a shame that we as people have no say into what goes into these conventions, bills or anything. I wish that there was a way for all our voices to be heard.

Pagan Gin

good for your kids Southern CB, but not all parents are as reasonable, as I said on BOTH extremes we have parents brainwashing kids with stuff they need to know is not the ‘accepted’ norm…much less ‘fact.’ And on the punishment issue…alas….many a holy book…from various faiths…can be used to justify beating a child, stoning one, killing one cutting off his hand…cutting off her privates…just because your or anyone else’s holy book says it…does not make it ‘right’ People need to stop taking all holy books so word for word literal. All faiths have some good dogma, and all faiths alas have some bad dogma. Schools should be multifaith or no faith, not any one faith.

Lefty Jan

Wow this sure got off topic. PiE you sure know how to stir the pot and get people’s opinions out there.

Patriot In Exile is proud to be on the liberal watchlists. They can’t silence our voice so they try to scare us with name calling. All that does is fuel the fire.

TR

YOU NAZI! YOU MOBSTER! Hey wait a minute, I guess I am one TOO!!!!! LOL!

Patriot In Exile

I wear that moniker like a badge of honor.

Lib Father-In-Law

How do you know?

TR

AMEN!!!

Patriot In Exile

I am sure my fb rants have been sent to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Lib Father-In-Law

Isn’t that the Secret Service list?

Patriot In Exile

Nope. Linda Douglas has asked for people to turn in any conversations, website or emails that seem “fishy” regarding “misinformation” on HR3200. Sounds like Castro’s goons in the 60’s.

Lib Father-In-Law

What’s HR3200?

Patriot In Exile

That’s funny.

Lib Father-In-Law

I really didn’t know. Mom found it and it is 1017 pages. I assume you have read the entire bill and not somebody’s blog summary?

Patriot In Exile

I am on page 450. It is a very difficult read. There is a lot of ambiguity and the language can be interpreted many different ways.

Also trying to read the UN Charter on Children’s Rights. That one just makes me sick to my stomach.

Pagan Gin

what’s wrong with the Un’s Children’s rights thing…never heard of it.

Patriot In Exile

Just that it allows for other nations to dictate how we raise our children, starts to take away the parent’s right to home school their child(ren), and gives more power to school officials to decide if the parents are “abusing” their children by taking corrective measures for wrong doings. It is a scary thing and Obama is all for it.

Let me know when you find the right wing’s scare tactic, “death panels,” in that document. I’ve yet to find it.

I just read the UN’s Convention on the Rights of the Child, and I don’t see where you get your points of other nations telling us how to raise our children, whether or not we can home school, and gives public schools the right to determine if children are abused by their parents?!!? Can you cite the exact wording of the document because, like I said, I’m not comprehending it as you are.

Patriot In Exile

Nothing yet. Just the end of life stuff. But, if we follow Oregon’s model, then we may have something to worry about.

Also, let me know when the actual reform talk begins. All I see so far in this bill is entitlement. Hearing Obama speak today makes me think that our system is so bad that we are bleeding people to cure diseases. It seems that there are some scare tactics being used on the “left” as well.

So, you have read the entire thing? All sections and pages? When I get back to the room I will be glad to point it out.

Southern CB

Well I don’t know what HR3200 is but I know I’m in there but don’t know which page. I do know that Jesus saved my soul, I will raise my family according to the Bible & I know 7.62×39 & 45 APC very well so screw them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patriot In Exile

Requested information on UN Charter for Human Rights.
GENERAL COMMENT No. 5 (2003)
General measures of implementation of the Convention on
the Rights of the Child (arts. 4, 42 and 44, para. 6).
In the Introduction is states:
“When a State ratifies the Convention on the Rights of the Child, it takes on obligations under international law to implement it.”
http://bit.ly/16YOg7
The only law we, in the USA, need to follow is that ordained in the US Constitution (much to the dismay of Justice Ginsberg) and by God Himself.

Innocent Gibby

hmmm!

Patriot In Exile

UN Charter regarding Corporal Punishment.
GENERAL COMMENT No. 8 (2006)
The right of the child to protection from corporal punishment and other cruel or degrading forms of punishment (arts. 19; 28, para. 2; and 37, inter alia)
Page 11, Number 43: “It is essential that the prohibition of all corporal punishment and other cruel or degrading punishment, and the sanctions that may be imposed if it is inflicted, should be well disseminated to children and to all those working with or for children in all settings. Monitoring disciplinary systems and the treatment of children must be part of the sustained supervision of all institutions and
placements which is required by the Convention.”
http://bit.ly/3NawGc

Patriot In Exile

On June 11, 2009 a report on home education in England by Graham Badman, a former Managing Director of Children, Families and Education in the County of Kent, was accepted in full by the British Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families. The report makes the case that homeschooling should be extensively regulated in England. He cited Article 29 of the UNCRC he proposed the following:

That designated local authority officers should:
- have the right of access to the home
- have the right to speak with each child alone.
And:

That a requirement is placed upon local authorities to secure the monitoring of the effectiveness of elective home education.

Mr. Badman’s rationale for placing the state in charge of determining the effectiveness of a home education (i.e. deciding which curriculum is used) is based on Article 29 of the UNCRC.

The Badman report is a stark reminder of how government officials in an English-speaking democracy have interpreted the UNCRC.

Patriot In Exile

I am sure you will argue these points I have made. It is no surprise that there is a separation between home schooling and public school sentiment. The overall right of raising the child lies with the parent. We cannot deny that there is some indoctrination that takes place in classrooms. The example of the class in NC where the teacher chided the students who stated they would vote for McCain is a prime example. I can provide that video if you would like.
The rights of the parent are slowly eroding. The UNCRC will do to parents rights what the Typhoon did to Taiwan this week.

Southern CB

I can’t remember where it is but there is a verse in the Bible that says the father who loves his child will chasten after him but the father who does not hateth his son. Or something like that. Of course we’ve all heard the verse that says “Spare not the rod to spoil the child”

Southern CB

Boy PiE, your wall fills up fast! LOL! Your as good at stirring th pot as I am or better LOL!!

Patriot In Exile

For those who want to read Mr. Badman’s (appropriate name) report, go here. http://bit.ly/EU9zS

Lefty Jan

29. Some raise faith-based justifications for corporal punishment, suggesting that certain
interpretations of religious texts not only justify its use, but provide a duty to use it. Freedom of religious belief is upheld for everyone in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (art. 18), but practice of a religion or belief must be consistent with respect for others’ human dignity and physical integrity. Freedom to practise one’s religion or belief may be legitimately limited in order to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of others. In certain States, the Committee has found that children, in some cases from a very young age, in other cases from the time that they are judged to have reached puberty, may be sentenced to punishments of extreme violence, including stoning and amputation, prescribed under certain interpretations of religious law. Such punishments plainly violate the Convention and other international human rights standards.

Lefty Jan

But again some things are not so bad to have in there. Looking out or children is not a bad thing and like with all bills or anything with government you sometimes end up taking the good with the bad. I am not saying that is a good thing just a reality.

Patriot In Exile

Lefty Jan, the problem here is that a lot is left up to interpretation. Also, there have been numerous cases where children were taken away from their parents because someone at school heard the child was spanked. I agree children should not be in abusive situations. However, the parent has the right to discipline their child for a wrong doing. Google Shelia Marie Sumey and Washington State. She was 13 when her parents grounded her for doing drugs and being sexually active. A school counselor told her she could be liberated and got the courts involved. CPS removed her from the home and her parents, even though the judge believed they were right, lost her to the State.

I do not accept good with the bad when bad means some idiot State or Federal bureaucrat can come in to my home at a whim and take my child because I disagree with government control of our lives. I believe taking the bad with the good is what has gotten us where we are today. Too many people remained silent for too long.

Southern CB

Yep I had DSS investigate me cause someone @ church of all places found out I spanked my kids & called & said I beat my kids & wife & they came out & had to see my children & wife’s naked bodies to see if I was beating them!!! I told the social worker that I now knew exactly what a woman feels like when she says she feels violated!! The law in NC protects the one who made the claim & will not ID them!!! But when DSS finished & sent me a letter saying they found no cause they said they also said the person who accused me would get the same letter & have 30 days to file a criminal charge against me. The social worker called me & said if they did she would testify to the fact that my home was the environment every child should grow up in!!!! Praise GOD for watching over us!!! It took my wife over a year before she would talk to anyone or let even friends & family in our home again!!

Texas Joe

Chris, People that make those accusations are no better than the dog poo that is on my boots. To falsely make accusations like that and destroy another persons sanity, is in itself abuse, but the good ol’ big bother doesn’t want that.

Pagan Gin

Well the sad truth about ‘home schooling’ is we got leftwing-nuts and right-wingnuts home schooling their kids and brainwashing them with all kinds of nonesence. Extremists on one side teaching kids that the universe is only 5000 years old, and Earth is the only planet with life in it….and ones on the other extreme teaching kids that smoking pot leads to enlightenment. Some teaching woman shouldn’t wear pants or make-up…some teaching everyone should go nude….both extremes are wackos…and both extremes have no business teaching such crap to kids who are sheltered form ‘the real world.’ Being a Pagan myself…many of ‘us’ homeschool and it’s bad for kids to be schooled only with ‘others like them’ and be always under the thumb of over protective over controlling parents. Kids need to learn to think for themselves, learn all things not just what mommy or their preacher says they can learn. Then make up their OWN minds if they believe what their parents believe.

Southern CB

Ginger all though I may not agree with your views me being a Christian I do see you have a valid point. But I also do not believe children are mature enough or wise enough to decide what’s right & wrong & choose how to believe until they are older then of course they have the right to make those choices. My self as a Christian try to raise mine according to the teachings of the Bible which plainly says I should. But it also plainly says that child has to make the choice on their own when they reach the “the age of accountability”. Thats just simply means we are to raise them as Christian but when they are old enough to understand it’s up to them cause we neither have the right or ability to decide such things for anyone including our children. The Bible also teaches to teach them about the world & what’s out there & they are other beliefs. We do our best to try to educate our kids on what is popular belief & what we believe & what others believe & they will have to choose as they grow.

Lefty Jan

PiE I understand your point but I think that this is still a good concept and idea to have protection for children. Especially after reading this article
.http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/08/11/congo.rape/index.html
It is a horrible world we live in that this goes on. I think that this is the focus that should be on the children. I think homeschooling should not even really be an issue as there are greater risks to children these days. It is a shame that we as people have no say into what goes into these conventions, bills or anything. I wish that there was a way for all our voices to be heard.

Pagan Gin

good for your kids Chris, but not all parents are as reasonable, as I said on BOTH extremes we have parents brainwashing kids with stuff they need to know is not the ‘accepted’ norm…much less ‘fact.’ And on the punishment issue…alas….many a holy book…from various faiths…can be used to justify beating a child, stoning one, killing one cutting off his hand…cutting off her privates…just because your or anyone else’s holy book says it…does not make it ‘right’ People need to stop taking all holy books so word for word literal. All faiths have some good dogma, and all faiths alas have some bad dogma. Schools should be multifaith or no faith, not any one faith.

Lefty Jan

Wow this sure got off topic. PiE you sure know how to stir the pot and get people’s opinions out there.

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Debating the Liberal Idiots on Facebook

September 9th, 2009

As promised on Twitter a while back, we are going to start posting some of the debates we have on Websites and Facebook.
What follows is a debate that started when a buddy of mine posted his Facebook status against the bailouts. The names have been changed to protect the innocent (and the stupid).

Facebook Debate

TR has finally figured out what the ‘CHANGE’ was that Obama promised. The government is spending a BILLION DOLLARS a day. CHANGE is all any of us is going to have.
Lib CJ
The most important aspect of the president’s plan to our business TR is a series of new rules for temporary but consequential tax breaks, meaning that small business:

_That have averaged no more than $15 million annually in gross receipts over a three year period can offset 2008 operating losses against prior profits for the past five years, instead of the normal two years. These carrybacks can be applied to a tax year either starting or ending in 2008.

_May write off up to $250,000 in investments this year. This could provide small businesses with tax relief on new capital equipment investments in an amount nearly double the previous tax break.

_Can reduce estimated tax payments to 90 percent of the previous year’s filing.

_Are allowed to take larger depreciation deductions within the first year of property purchases.

_And will see 75 percent of capital gains excluded for those who invest in small businesses.

TR
I don’t see how there will be any tax breaks. The government will fold if they do not take in money to replace the money they are throwing recklessly at BIG Business.

Lib CJ
Take a look at the law for yourself (you can read the whole thing here):

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/HR1.pdf

Patriot In Exile
Well, at least you are getting change back. All I am getting is a crummy t-shirt.
No, in all seriousness, Obama has already shown his disdain for our military, for capitalism, and for Christian values. He throws stuff out there only to publicly pull back and then sneak stuff in due to his marxist-agenda friends in congress. God has allowed this to take place as a wake up call. You can’t regulate ethics. The Constitution is being desecrated. Obama has already told us he thinks it is a flawed document. Now he and his brown shirts are going to do what they can to have total government control over our lives.

And I am sure the Huffington Post is the best place to go for a complete and thorough analysis of the law. Not biased at all.

Lib CJ
It’s not analysis. It’s a link to the final draft of the stimulus package. ***Warning- there are no pictures, so you will probably need some help***

Patriot In Exile
Is that the link to what was supposed to be available 5 days before the vote was rushed through? Exactly how many times did Obama get on TV and scream the sky was falling only to come out a few days later and tell that the foundations of the economy are “fundamentally sound”? Didn’t Obama and all his cronies bash McCain for saying just that? And that was when the stock market was over 12k. Now it’s is in the tank and everything is all right because we were able to borrow money from China.
I don’t recall slamming you. But if you want to go there I most certainly can.

Lib CJ
I can certainly understand why you are resistant to actually reading the plan yourself, due to your disdain for facts (apparently ANY of them). Do you actually understand anything that you just said? Do you know what Marxist theory is? How about how it relates to ‘brown shirts’? Don’t bother trying to get into ’slamming’ me, because you (and your ilk) considering yourself representing America and the Christian faith is embarrassing enough for everyone.

Patriot In Exile
Well, it is obvious that I won’t be able to convince you of my resume. Understanding the Communist Manifesto, Rules for Radicals, and most importantly The Constitution is something on which I pride myself greatly. Now you can say what you want about me. Luckily I am not disturbed by hatred from those on the other side of the aisle. Once again, instead of a good healthy debate, we are at a stand still due to quick tempers and judgmental statements. So, for the next year and a half we will all sit back and watch. I firmly believe the next election will move us in the proper direction once again. The republican party will once again start listening to its constituents, and stop spending like a liberal.

Innocent Angela
Wow. I just learned more in the last 5 minutes of reading TR update than, well, I probably have in the last 3 years.

TR
Never knew this would generate this much banter.

Although, I still have trouble believing this administration has the best interest of our country in mind. To me they have there mind made up, where they want to take our country and they are not going to listen to anybody till they can get it there.

Lib CJ
This is for Angela:

Ok, I’ll take it from the top.

Marxism and ‘brown shirts’ represent exact opposite ideologies (you can’t be both).

“President Bush has presided over a system wide doctrine of violating the Constitution at every turn and that he should be impeached”- Republican Congressman Ron Paul During an interview with Alex Jones on the GCN Radio network July 2006

Obama’s actual quote:
“I think it is an imperfect document, and I think it is a document that reflects some deep flaws in American culture” – Chicago’s WBEZ-FM on Sept. 6, 2001, titled “Slavery and the Constitution.”

Lib CJ
Obama pledged to have legislation available for 5 days before he signed it (it passed Congress and was made available on Feb.13, he signed on the 17th)

Exactly how many times did Obama get on TV and scream “the sky was falling”: 0
However, a more accurate accounting of the point he was trying to make is here: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_090316.htm

The DOW dropped below 11,000 points (by 778.68 points) on Sept.29 2008

China has increased its share of U.S. federal debt by $223 billion since November 2007 and by $95 billion since September of 2008. – CNSNews.com

“Obama has already shown his disdain for our military, for capitalism, and for Christian values. He throws stuff out there only to publicly pull back and then sneak stuff in due to his marxist-agenda friends in congress.”- this unsubstantiated drivel is what precludes this from being a “good healthy debate.”

Now I hope you have learned something valuable.

But I do appreciate Patriot In Exile taking the time to Google Marx.

Patriot In Exile
Wow. You are classy. I am currently driving from NH to TN. I will GLADLY provide a well educated response with links to Obama’ multiple uses of the words “crisis” and “catastrophe”. So, you just go ahead and sit back, sip your kool aid and I will (hopefully) open your eyes to the truth.

Patriot In Exile
Okay. Let’s go ahead and lay this to rest. I don’t negotiate those things which I know to be true. So, for your viewing pleasure.

Obama Hates the Military:

–Wants to make the VETS provide private health insurance to cover injuries sustained during service. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/17/dems-fuming-over-white-ho_n_176006.html (From your beloved Huff Po)

While he pulled back on this after seeing the back lash, you can bet we haven’t seen the end of it. Just like he is pushing universal health care in his budget plan, he will find a way to get what he wants.

–Skips the Medal of Honor Inaugural Ball.
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/8627?page=13 He becomes the first president since the inception of this ball to ever miss it.

–Did not visit the troops in Germany during his whirlwind tour of the globe to win support for the election. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/DoD_spokesman_says_Obama_camp_was_reminded_of_political_rules.html

Now, of course they have put their spin on it (as he always will). But, since he couldn’t make a huge deal out of it in the press, he pulled out all together.

Obama snubs the Christians:

We all know abortion is a huge issue on both sides of the aisle. Christians oppose it and always will. That is why, when Obama decided to take tax payer money and fund abortions, not only domestically, but abroad, Christians took that like a slap in the face. http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-BarackObamaUK/idUSTRE50M3PQ20090123 It is quite obvious, based on the amount of time it took to put this in place, that he was just itching for this to go through. And, lest we forget the Born Alive Act he tried to stop; http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html
And, while you won’t accept this as evidence, society in general is starting its own war on Christianity. Have you noticed that all other religions are spoken of as a culture, while Christianity is referred to as religion?

My guess is you probably haven’t. But that is probably because you are so against Christianity due to your lack of understanding of it. Christians don’t claim to be perfect. Far from it. Nor do they claim to be passive. It is about understanding the relationship between God and His people the His Son, Jesus Christ. Time and time again people have tried to find discrepancies in the Bible. Time and time they are proven wrong. The Bible is the only document known to withstand the test of time.

Obama and the Constitution:

As you so clearly put in the link about Obama’s interview where he discussed the “flaws” in the Constitution, he sees it as a document that prevents the government from doing things on your behalf. The Constitution was created to keep the government from running our lives. We are all promised the right to Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of Happiness. No one is guaranteed success.

People who have money are more than willing to give to charitable organizations who make it their mission to provide assistance for those who require it.
Now, you do run in to the occasional few, like Biden (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-12-biden-financial_N.htm) who horde their money yet claim to be looking out for the little guy. But, in general, you will find that people with money are more than willing to give to worthy organizations. Therein lies the difference. They are giving…of their own FREE WILL. What the government has in mind is completely different. As a matter of FACT, Obama wants to remove all possible deductions for charitable giving (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_617213.html).
I could go on forever on this and provide nothing but hard facts on why the government should not interfere with our lives.

I am sure that all of this typing I have done, the hard facts provided will do nothing to change your mind. Nor will your drivel about how the conservative movement is ruining this country change mine. The fact is, if we actually HAD a strong conservative in congress it would be a different story. Right now all we have are some wishy-washy RINO’s who do what they can to keep Pelosi and Reid happy. But, I have always felt Obama is the best thing to happen to the Conservative movement. It has been the clarion call. Like the Japanese Admiral Yamamoto in Tora!Tora!Tora! stated, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

As we watch Obama’s approval rating drop, I wonder if he is thinking the same thing?

Funny how the mouthy LibCJ didn’t respond after this.  You have to love it.  More to come…

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Robert Gibbs is a freaking idiot.

July 7th, 2009

So, I was listening to my talk radio and heard an audio that I just could not believe.  Robert Gibbs was asked about Obama’s campaign pledge about not raising taxes on those making less than $250k/yr.  Remember him saying that?  Well, when Gibbs was asked about this pledge by a reporter, Gibbs told the reporter that he can’t comment on any “hypotehticals”.  WHAT?!?!?  Hypotheticals?  Read the exchange here.

Q    Robert, I just wanted to ask about health care.  Yesterday on ABC, David Axelrod was asked repeatedly about whether the President would veto any health reform bill that has a tax on people making — a tax increase on anybody making under $250,000 per year.  So I want to give you a chance, as well.  (Laughter.)  Will the President veto — will the President veto any health bill that has a tax –

MR. GIBBS:  We should get David down here.  You know, here’s what — I think we get this question once a week, in some form or another.  I think in many ways, Ed, what marks the difference between this health care effort and other health care efforts in the past is exactly what the President described — a very large table with people sitting at it, trying to solve a problem that we’ve been working on for 40 years.

The good news is we’re making significant progress, and all those people are still sitting at the table.  We haven’t drawn a lot of bright lines.  We understand there’s some flexibility on the part of Congress to work through some of these policy issues.  And we’re going to allow that process to continue to make — that process to continue in order to make progress.

Q    That may be true, but the President on the campaign said that — he made a flat pledge that he would not raise taxes on anybody making under $250,000.  So is that pledge still operable?

MR. GIBBS:  Well, again, I think in some ways your question is hypothetical because there are any number of different bills, different proposals.  I think the President has outlined what he believes is the very best way to pay for health care.

Q    It doesn’t have to be hypothetical.  He made a pledge –

MR. GIBBS:  I understand.

Q    — he said, I am not going to raise taxes on anyone making under $250,000.  Is that pledge still active?

MR. GIBBS:  We are going to let the process work its way through.

Q    So it’s not.

Q    So it’s not.

Q    So it’s not.  (Laughter.)

MR. GIBBS:  We’re going to let the process work its way through.  All right?

You have that awfully perplexed look on your face, Mr. Garrett.

Q    Well, what would be the reason for reversing among the most conspicuous, if not the most conspicuous, campaign promise that this candidate Obama repeated everywhere across the country?

MR. GIBBS:  Well, I appreciate the indulgence to get into these hypothetical questions months before we’re likely to do that.  It is rich to watch the fact that we’re making so little progress on health care reform that you’ve asked me if the President is going to sign the bill that’s not at his desk.  Let’s –

Q    We didn’t ask you about signing the bill –

MR. GIBBS:  No, no –

Q    And there’s nothing hypothetical about reaffirming a campaign promise.

MR. GIBBS:  It is in the sense that we’re not facing any sort of decision on this.  We’re letting Congress work many of these issues through.  And we’re making progress.

Q    But, historically, administrations that make such conspicuous promises tell Congress, you can do this, this, and this, but don’t go there because it’s not something we’re going to do.

MR. GIBBS:  And I think the President in his principles and in the $948 billion to finance health care reform has laid out pretty clearly what his financing mechanism would be.  Which –

Q    Then why not take the opportunity provided by Ed to reassure the American public that the campaign promise still stands?

MR. GIBBS:  — any increase in revenue would affect top wage-earners’ charitable deductions, returning them to the rates of the Regan administration.

source:  http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Briefing-by-White-House-Press-Secretary-Robert-Gibbs-6-29-09/

Amazing.  Again and again we see this administration going back on its campaign pledges/promises, yet the people still stand behind this guy.  Power to the sheeple.

It is our jobs, as patriotic Americans, to get this word out.  No one watches these pressers.  We have a way to break the liberal argument.  Take this and sent it to everyone you know.  Put it on Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc…  Let the people know what lies this administration has told to get in to power.

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Liberals Rule!! (They never Lead)

June 16th, 2009

Liberals Rule

 

“There is one president at a time. President Bush is still the president. He’s graciously invited President-elect Obama to the White House tomorrow to begin their conversations of the transition. So we respect that. He will be the president until January 20th. However, giving–given, really, the daunting challenges that we face, it’s important that President-elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one. So we will be working closely with his administration. We’re reviewing the agencies now. He will be making key personnel decisions. He gets national security briefings every day now as well, but he will not be the president until January 20th.”

Valerie Jarrett, Co-chair of Barack Obama’s Transition Team

 

How could you see a quote like this and not be troubled over the future of this country. Liberals rule, they do not lead. They see the citizens of the United States as subjects, not fellow Americans. They believe they know best what is good for you and oppose you doing for yourself.

When this country was first born, after a lengthy revolution, the idea for a king was purposed and immediately dismissed. This new country did not need a ruler. It needed a leader. Our founding fathers worked diligently to form a government that would lead this great nation while still being restrained by its citizens. Since that time politicians have been working tirelessly to undermine and dismantle those safeguards.

So what’s the difference between leaders and rulers? Leaders will put forth policies and guidelines while trying not to interfere with individual achievement and personal growth. Leaders listen to those around them and seek advice, occasionally opting to support unpopular but necessary action. They will even listen to those that dissent and are open to debating the merits of policies and guidelines they have created. Rulers, on the other hand, are not interested in individuals. They neither want nor will they seek advice from those outside their circle. They will choose only those actions that ensure their continued power. Rulers are not interested in debate or dissenting opinion. They will squash speech and set rules against anything that may interfere with their plans.

Now we have seen our government take control of two major car companies, tell investors they were being greedy, select a “Pay Czar”, give concessions to unions, purpose “public” healthcare, and promise so much more to come. This administration continues to tell us that everything is broken and the only solution is government. They don’t want to do this, as the President is fond of saying, but we force it on them by not behaving. We should just be thankful they are willing to do this, and they can not understand why we would ever resist.

 After all, they are just helping us. Making sure we don’t hurt or endanger ourselves. Life decisions are much too difficult to leave to individuals. After all, poor decisions can lead to failure. We can’t have that now, can we? What would we do if someone started keeping score?

 While politicians from both major parties are guilty of working merely in their own interests, it is the liberal politician that has long been opposed to the idea of individual achievement. Hillary Clinton once said, “We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.” Yet it was individual dreams and aspirations that drove this country to success. Liberals will tell you they want to make things fair. Yet they never explain fair to whom or in what way. Fair can mean many things. Fair should mean that everyone gets a chance. What you do with your chance is up to you. Yet more often today it is used to mean that you can not have more than me. No matter what the reasons. Today you will hear people yell about fair but hear statements that sound more like envy. This plays wonderfully into the liberal power play. Liberal politicians are quick to tell you what you need, when you need it, and how it should be done. Liberal politicians never want to hear the people extolling the virtues of individual responsibility and individual achievement. Individuals would never accept a ruling class.

And Liberals Rule!!

 Free the USA!!!!

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The Mythical Hydra of our Federal Government

May 22nd, 2009

In the mythical Greek story of Hercules and the Hydra, Hercules was continually frustrated in his task of dispatching the creature because the heads would grow back when he chopped them off. Every time he would remove a head, two would take its place. Eventually he resorted to using an iron to cauterize the ends to stop the heads.

This is a lot like our government today. No matter how much we try to chop it returns two fold. Government agencies and federal programs seem to grow like new heads and continue to feed off the economy, devouring by using its poisonous breath of taxation. To date we have been unable to check this growth and have even seen the masses begin to worship the great beast.

The federal government today operates a sleight of hand, borrowing against projected taxes and social security while selling the future generations into federal bondage to pay for promises today. It has long been estimated that this can not be sustained and that the structure will eventually fail. Yet no one seems to have any solutions or have the fortitude to cut back on the overloaded system. We can’t count on politicians as the programs that bloat our government or the bargaining chips they use to get into office. We have the over written tax code which is a massive source of abuse by all the politicians in Washington, printed with indecipherable codes and contradicting rules that could never be untangled no matter how hard we try. Presidential wannabes and Senatorial and Congressional hopefuls are more than aware of the power they have with these programs and taxes. The citizens of this country are caught in a dependent relationship with the very people that are supposed to be beholden to the people. When you become dependent on anyone, you become powerless. If you are powerless, how could you ever hope to change the behavior of those in the federal government?

Even today we see this taken even further. Our President has used his office to take over private industry. This administration has bullied investors, banks, and private citizens to reach their agenda goals. We as a country allowed this beast to be created by turning a blind eye to the actions of the federal politicians.

Perhaps the answer isn’t with the election of federal officials. Maybe the answer is with state officials. Maybe this is something that can be changed by making changes at home. The Tenth Amendment of the Constitution speaks directly to the issue of state’s rights over federal interference. One of the obstacles to the states exhibiting power is the federal funding they have become dependent upon. The federal government has threatened withholding those funds for infrastructure repairs and other programs unless the state first enacted any particular law or backed any action the federal government was pushing at the time. Once again a dependency relationship has rendered a People powerless. Still, it would be easier for the People to change the actions and polices at a local level and then express their power through the state rather than continue the attempt on a disconnected federal level. Currently the major focus has been on a national level and people rarely look too closely at what is happening in the state capital or even in city hall. Both have become havens for new generations of corrupt and power hungry officials practicing their craft before going to the Big Show in Washington. One needs to look no farther than Detroit, New York City, and Atlanta to see what can happen when a city is allowed to be managed by runaway politicians. Mismanaged funds, overly powerful government unions, and local officials with little or no oversight have left these cities with crumbling sewers and traffic filled roads.

Their only solution; asking for more federal assistance.

This is where we need to focus our collective power. Beginning with local officials and weaning them from the federal trough. Teaching them to build upon local resources and grow a strong local economy. We start with the city governments and then the states. If we as citizens can focus on gaining control there then we will have greater success standing by our principles on a national level.

We should begin by taking back control of our children’s education. We should stop bowing to the pressure of political correctness and demand that education consist of a complete and proper history of this country.

Every year we are allowing the next generations to loose the concepts that founded this country. There are generations of children, some of whom are reaching voting age, that believe everything in their lives should be provided by their government. We can not continue to allow this and expect to survive as a nation. We must take control of that and make our voices heard.

We must take control of local spending and ensure our officials are not over reaching in providing services. We should rely on the private sector to supply services whenever possible. Governments are not efficient in providing services. The private sector would be a much cheaper and historically more reliable use of tax money then any government agency could ever hope to be. The citizens would only need to provide sufficient oversight to avoid the influence of corruption.

By growing stronger at home we stand a greater chance of having our voices heard on a national level. By taking a greater interest in our local and state elections we stand a greater chance of focusing on the selections made for our House of Representatives and Senate. We can get back to the states making a difference in our nation.

Then maybe we will stand a chance.

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Change: It’s always for someone else; and it includes Revenge

May 16th, 2009

Change. That’s the great theme of today. Vote for change. Believe in change. Change you can believe in. But have you ever noticed that the change someone is selling never seems to involve themselves? It’s always someone else they want to change.

But what is it they want to be different? What exactly do they want to see changed? If you ask, you never seem to get a clear answer. They are only able to tell you it must be different. They can just feel that things aren’t right, and it must be because of you. Life isn’t working so it must be something, but not me.

I believe you will find that the average person occasionally gripes and complains that someone else got a lucky break. Even I find myself fuming over choices made by those in charge or when I see some celebrity living the good life for seemingly doing nothing other than looking good for a camera. It’s an easy trap to fall into but what good does it do me? What good does it do any of us? Are you really going to improve your life if some Wall Street big shot doesn’t get a huge bonus? Are things suddenly going to get better if some movie star doesn’t get freebies at some party? The real answer is no. In fact, if you spend your time fuming over other people it most likely will wreck your life. You will never be satisfied. It can become an all consuming fire within you. It is, after all, an emotion. Emotions are not rational. Some of the worst decisions that have ever been made, some of the worst damage ever done to society, have involved emotions rather than rational thought.

Think about it, “social justice”, “fairness”, “political correctness”, all have the emotional base. You can get mobs revved up and people will accept almost anything if they just get “mad” enough. Politicians feed off it. They use it as an effective tool. Usually it’s to keep you from looking too closely at what they are doing, masking what is really happening.

As long as you can focus society’s anger on a target (rich people, Republicans, Christians, etc) you can push almost any agenda. It’s all their fault. They want to destroy you, keep you down, keep everything for themselves. They want to control you, tell you what to do, how to live. Believe in change and we can fight “THEM”. How many wars have been fought because somebody pointed at them?

It even happens within our own, smaller social networks. Environmentalists are screaming that we need to change our energy policies, move away from dirty fossil fuels. They want to use fines and taxes to change people’s behavior. They lash out at the dreaded SUV. But when the government wants to build wind farms or solar panels the same environmentalists work to stop the process. They want to see someone punished, not just a new way of doing things. Change should bring Revenge.

After all, that’s what we really want. Revenge. We want them to change and be sorry for not listening in the first place.

I recently heard my pastor, a man for whom I have great respect, say something very interesting. If you want to change the way things are around you, you should probably start with yourself. That will have the greatest affect on your life. I realized that what he was saying was so simple, yet really hit the mark. Most of the time we want change because something in our lives is not working. We are not seeing the reward we thought should be there for our effort. We see someone living better and it just can’t be fair. And sometimes it’s not fair. Life is just like that. It’s not fair. I have neither heard of nor seen Paris Hilton do anything useful to society, and yet she is worshiped as a celebrity and her every word or party move is news. Why? How is that fair? It’s not. But how does my worrying about that going to make my life better? It won’t.

I can trace all the problems in my life to some decision I made. Maybe at some points I have been affected “unfairly” by other people’s actions yet if I let it stop me or dissuade me from my goals, whose fault is that? Ultimately it’s my fault. I am the leading contributor to my own outcome. You are the leading contributor to your outcome.

Equal opportunity will never have equal outcome, no matter what laws or mandates you use. If it did, all games in sports would end in ties. Life is a competition, and the sooner you get yourself involved the better. Stop sitting on the bench complaining about the other guy getting better treatment. Find it within yourself to be better, and the rest of the world will follow.

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American Supreme Court TV

May 16th, 2009

Em-pa-thy : the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

Our President has described his perfect Supreme Court candidate as having empathy. Many political pundits are expressing the thought that the administration should look outside judicial experience, some even suggesting that legal experience shouldn’t be a requirement.

So I had a vision. A solution to all our problems.  A way out with no political fighting. And it offers the one thing Americans today require the most; entertainment. That’s it. TV.

If it’s empathy we want deciding our highest cases, what better venue than American TV? We could have the American Idol of the Judiciary! We will call it American Supreme Court TV.

“Coming to you live from our nation’s capital, I’m Ryan Seacrest and THIS WEEK ON AMERICAN SUPREME COURT TV!!”

Cases on our show will be tried in segments with themes. Each side will have lawyers but they have to avoid any boring legalese. References to our Constitution are acceptable, but we prefer witty, snide remarks at the expense of the opposing side. We will certainly consider it a favor if you will invite celebrity guests that will stump for your cause. D-list celebs are ok, but you need to be careful, it may be sweeps week.

Now granted, a good many times the court will be handling cases for some of the more criminally challenged in our society. We have a plan for that. Our specialized PR department will work to ensure the most favorable coverage and profile will be presented to the viewing audience. We wouldn’t want any big corporations or law enforcement types getting the upper hand.

Our panel of judges, in this case mostly comedians and entertainers looking to rekindle their careers, will offer commentary, opinion, and general banter to help keep things lively. At the end of each episode we will open polling. Vote early, vote often. ACORN will be our official tally coordinator. Ad revenue could be used to pay down our National Debt (wink wink).

Our high court was established to answer questions of Constitutionality and keeping our Legislative and Executive branches in check. It was meant as a defender of our Rule of Law. Not a popularity contest. No emotional involvement. Rule of Law. It’s what holds our society together. It sets a standard that we all follow. A concrete foundation upon which we are able to build our lives. We have laws to protect everyone’s interest. Not one person over another. Not a corporation over people, or people over a corporation. Everyone is protected equally.

When we begin to add emotion, or empathy as some call it, you remove that foundation. If there is a problem with the law our Legislative Branch needs to address that. Not our judges. That’s why we vote. We don’t get to vote for judges o the Supreme Court. We don’t need them making laws, just enforcing them.

If you want to look for a specific candidate, how about someone who will enforce the freedoms of our Constitution against an ever increasing creep of Government intrusion? How about someone that believes in applying the law equally, without qualifiers, so that we can all be sure of where we stand?

How about someone who believes in this country and it’s people?

The polls are open America.

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Which Conservative Values Should I Drop?

May 4th, 2009

I keep hearing this same message over and over. Reagan is dead. His values are dead. The Conservatives are dead. The GOP, if they wish to gain any power, needs to change their ways and be more like the Liberal Democrat Party.

So I want to know, what values do I have as a Conservative that need to be changed? What are my Core Beliefs that no longer apply in our society?

Is it a belief that the government is too big and needs to be scaled back? At what point do we consider that the Federal Government has grown too big and is involved in too much of our lives? We see our President deciding the fate of private companies, choosing who wins and who looses. His administration has fired CEO’s, set pay scales, forced out private investors, and set the stage for a foreign company to take over an American business. Is this really the purpose of our government? It seems that allowing our government to decide which companies will be successful opens us to influence of activist groups who have longed for ways to destroy the things with which they disagree. I can not believe we would, as a society, want to move away from the private market place to a federally controlled market. It didn’t work for the Soviet Union, and they are still trying to recover.

So maybe it’s my belief in the Constitution. Should that be what I drop? No other document in the world has guaranteed such freedoms to a country’s citizens like our Constitution. Those freedoms are there not as a product of government, not as a gift from government, but as inalienable rights that should be cherished and protected. Even the vaunted U.N. doesn’t guarantee human rights. Their document even states, in Article 29 of the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights, that the rights are granted by the governing body and can be taken away if they interfere with existing U.N. goals. Remember, those goals change with the winds. The U.N. has never successfully helped any nation or people, although they have stood by and watch as people were slaughtered. Yet we continue to drift away from our Constitution, even opting for the introduction of International Laws as influence over our courts. I can’t imagine what that will eventually mean to our freedoms.

Some maybe it’s my religion. I happen to be Christian, which has become something of a dirty word. Christians have even been associated with hate. Yet I can’t help but notice that Christian organizations have done more for the people in this world than any government or other religion. They have built more homes, schools, and roads. Provided more food and clothing. Administered more medicines. Provided more hope and relief. Christian charities have worked hard in our communities and around the world to provide better lives to those in need. And now we want to single them out by their beliefs and crush them. Remove them from our society, it seems. Shame them into some sort of submission. All in the name of Political Correctness. I wonder who will take up their cause for the needy if that ever happens?

So maybe it’s my belief in individual freedoms and responsibility. Responsibility. That is a big word. It’s scary for most people, even me sometimes. Still, I know that I will fare better by making my own way than if I allow my future to be decided by others.  You hear that it takes a village, but villages are made up of individuals working together. If your village is 10 people who all have the exact same skills, then 9 of them are useless. You need the individual to bring you so called diversity. How can something be diverse if everyone is the same? We need the individual and the creativity that comes from the individual. Without that our society will fall flat. You can already see the strains from the lack of responsibility in our society. So many people claim “It’s not my fault” that they reached wherever they are in life. Yet the saying stands; Every decision I have ever made, both good and bad, has led me to where I am. You can not hide from responsibility but our society is looking to shift it over to someone else. I find it hard to believe that it will turn out well for us, wearing these blinders and believing that someone else will eventually take care of it and all will be well.

So which is it? Which of my beliefs is too radical to maintain?

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Stand Strong, Keep the Faith, Stay on Point

May 4th, 2009

It is no wonder that we TRUE Conservatives find it harder and harder to remain focused. We see people who we thought were going to be true leaders for the conservative movement stabbing us in the back with their insane words.
This past weekend Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Eric Cantor held a townhall meeting in Arlington and just tried to take the wind out of our sails. They talk about listening to the American people. What they mean to say is they want to pander to those loonies out there who know nothing and care nothing about the Constitution. Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Eric Cantor. The latest RINO’s. No wonder the libs look at us like we are milktoast. http://tinyurl.com/dlw6tz

Obama won because he had an extreme liberal message and was able to get people to follow him because he delivered it in such a way that even those on the GOP side voted for him. So tell me, if Reagan’s message is too extreme for Americans, why in the world did he win so much of the vote in 1984? http://tinyurl.com/c42qvj You can see by the map that was just linked that Reagan beat even Obama’s record, and that was without the Internet, MSM, and SMS. If Reagan’s message was good enough to save us from Carter, it is good enough to save us from Obama.

Fellow Conservatives, don’t lose sight of the ultimate goal. Limited government is still attainable. Stay focused. Stay on message. Don’t be afraid of the liberal threat. We do NOT negotiate those things we know to be true. We WILL NOT stand down from our core beliefs and traditional values. We will not change our message just to gain power. To do so will make us no better than the liberals who are currently in power and destroying this country.

The libs are successfully executing their “divide and conquer” plan. Let’s keep this line strong and press forward. Sound your voice from the tallest mountain. Let it be heard by all around you. Let other voices join you. Spread the message. And most of all, pray for the resolve to withstand the constant barrage of negative press and influences. Our so called leaders don’t seem to be strong enough to do it. We will have to do it in their place.

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The Arrogance of Obama

May 4th, 2009

During his visit to St. Louis to celebrate his glorious 100th day destroying this great country, Barack Hussein Obama trashed American Citizens who dared dissent against, not only him, but the tyrannical government who has taken power over this country. That guy has some nerve.

Who remembers Shrillary Clinton saying this:

“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say, we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

Against ANY administration. I guess Obama didn’t get the memo. Maybe, just like his puppet Gibbs said about the Tax Day Tea Party Protests, he knew nothing about it.

So, how did presidents Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, and George W Bush respond to protesters? Unfortunately finding videos of them being asked this will prove to be difficult. I do remember seeing GW Bush receiving such questions and him being in support of living in such a great country where people are allowed to voice their opinion, even if it didn’t go along with his own. I am sure had he expressed a different view he would have been crucified by the media. (Yes I can speculate since I am only blogging and not publishing this in a national news paper.)

I really wonder how long it will take before more and more people who voted for Obama will start to hang their head in shame. Please, wear a button so I can come up to you and thank you for playing a part in the demise of this country. Obama’s smug attitude and demeanor are nauseating. To me, Obama’s speeches and ipecac have the same effect. However, at least with ipecac the symptoms wear off. With Obama, his will be everlasting.

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